Jens Tholstrup, Global Brand Ambassador for the single malt
Scotch whisky, Glenfiddich was in India for promoting Glenfiddich.
William Grant & Sons International Limited, the makers
of Glenfiddich, are an international Scotch Whiskey company, whose
origins go back to 1887. Over a century later, Glenfiddich is still
made by the William Grant family and to the same exacting standards
that William Grant originally laid down for it.
Tholstrup travels around the world, creating awareness about Glenfiddich
and hosting master classes in the 180 markets where the brand is
widely available. He ended his 10-day tour of India with Chennai,
after visiting Delhi, Mumbai, Kolkatta and Bangalore. He speaks
to Chennaibest on what goes into making Glenfiddich special.
So How's India been?
Very
hot (laughs)...I am not used to this weather. For the first time
in my life I have experienced hot rain. I did not realise there
is such a thing. We normally go inside when it rains, but here I
got outside because it's wonderful. Also I have been very happy
with the presentations and the response. It shows we were right
in what we are doing. It is not a big advertising campaign and also
we can not advertise. We still had little bit in the papers, a little
ad, which is called 'Knights of Inspiration', where we mentioned
Glenfiddich, but we do not mention whisky or alcohol. Just that,
'it is simply a chance to try the flavours of Scotland'. What we
have been doing is on a lot of different levels. We have had consumer
sessions, Hotel staff, bar staff, Managers etc; we have had a session
for journalists as well. I have also been training distributors
and sales forces. So it's on lots of different levels.
How would you rate the Chennai consumer's
understanding and appreciation of the nuances in terms of taste, flavour,
aroma, finish etc of single malt Scotch whiskey, especially since
you have had consumer sessions?
There is no doubt, when we go through it. It is basically easy
to tell the difference between a 12, a 15 and an 18-year-old Glenfiddich.
And that's what we are trying to do. Trying to describe what whiskey
is. You might think whiskey is whiskey, but there are different
types of whiskeys around the world. Where I come from, there are
different types of whiskey in Scotland. And when we get down to
the interactive sessions, I talk about why are we special, why are
we different from all the others. And then eventually people
deserve the whiskey or three or four.
How do you plan to increase the awareness
about Single Malt? Most people do not know the difference between
Scotch and Single Malt?
A Single Malt is still Scotch. In Scotland you have Blended whiskey
and you have Malt whiskey. Malt whiskey has more flavours. Many
have heard about Malt whiskey, but they are not quite sure about
it. For the people who haven't heard, we can introduce the 12-year
oldGlenfiddich. For people who already know the 12-year old, we
say ok...why don't you try the 15 or the 18-year old.
What does it take to become a good single
malt connoisseur?
Interest...you
don't have to be a connoisseur to appreciate it. If you like the
flavours, if you are willing to learn...it is all about enjoyment
and relaxation. You even have a few connoisseurs in a group, who
want to know everything. I am here to answer questions. I don't
want to exclude anybody. You can go into a computer store and the
guy who's trying to sell the computer has no idea, that you don't
know anything about a computer. And he can't talk to you directly,
because you are not on the same level. And I think that's important,
that no matter who it is, you should be able to talk to them.
If you were to explain it in layman's terms,
what attributes go into the distilling, maturing and bottling of great
Single Malt Scotch whisky?
You have three ingredients-water, barley and yeast. You get some
sugar out of the barley by letting it grow a little bit and then
you mill it. Then you add water to it and drain the sugar out of
it. You have the sugar liquid, which you add yeast to. This is like
beer. It starts to ferment and you make a beer. That beer you put
in to copper pot stills. You cook it and distil it; you separate
alcohol and flavours from the water. This is basically the raw spirit,
it has whiskey flavours, but before it can be called whiskey, it
has to mature for three years. We would then mature it for extra
nine years. So the youngest Glenfiddich is 12 years old. It is really
simple to make, but it takes an awful long time to make. And if
you make Malt whiskey, it takes a lot more effort, a lot more hand
work, a lot more craft. Which is why Malt Whiskey is a lot more
expensive than Blended Whiskey.
Would a spicier diet (such as those in India)
change in anyway the enjoyment of Single Malt Scotch whiskey?
Not at all. I think it is going to open chances of more flavours.
Because, Indians appreciate a lot of flavours. Our 12 year old is
live, its fresh, it is always refreshing to drink. It is great as
a pre-dinner drink. The 15-year old is spicier. For Indian food
eaters, it is perfect. I think just between the three Glenfiddich
we cater for a lot of flavours.
What about the climate, Chennai is hot and
humid, do you think it has any effect in the enjoyment of Single Malt
Scotch Whiskey?
The climate to me makes a difference, in the sense that when I
am inside, all buildings here are extremely cold. So, I like it
basically neat. When I am outside I want to cool it down and so
on. But if I really want to taste more flavours in a whiskey, I
can add a little bit of water to it. Water actually makes more flavours
come out.
What combinations have proved most popular
in the making of cocktails with Single Malt Scotch whisky?
I
have been asked that by bartenders as well. I would leave that to
them. That's their job. I would say if you buy Malt Whiskey, you
are buying it for its flavours. So, you tend not to put coke or
lemonade or things like that. You tend to do that with blended whiskey.
Again I have no objection to any of that. But you are paying a lot
of money for extra flavours. The first choice would be…neat,
the next with water, then with ice or may be with mineral water.
Coming back to your visiting India? Why did
William Grant & Sons decide to target India?
The reason we decided to target India was that on the 1st
of April we were told that Scotch Whiskeys are allowed into India.
And India is the biggest Whiskey market for Indian Whiskey. We saw
a great opportunity here. Then when we came on the 1st
of April, the taxes were raised even more. We were allowed in, but
really we are paying somewhere between 600 - 700% tax on a bottle,
which is basically keeping us out anyway. And it means there is
a lot of whiskey smuggled into the country. The Indian Government
is losing out, because the bottles are sold anyway, but they are
sold through neighbouring countries. So there is a very big black
market. The way to fight it would be to allow us in. We are not
a direct competitor to Indian Whiskey; of course there is a huge
market for that. It is certainly cheaper, it is more Industrial
Whiskey and there is a market for that. And there should also be
a market for people who want to eat better, drink better. What we
would really do is create a niche.
How do you propose to compete with the much-publicized
worldwide market leader John Walker & Sons Ltd whose product offerings
are available in every segment?
Glenfiddich is available in 180 markets around the world. It is
the biggest Malt Whiskey. But again Malt Whiskey is more traditional
flavour wise and so on. William Grant & Sons is still a family
concern and so we do not have end less amount of money to throw
at the brand. What we are doing is dropping a stone into the pond,
and hope that knowledge will spread like rings in the water. We
are not going to immediately put in a lot of money on that, because
it is very difficult for us to sell, as we are not in the shops.
We would only be found in private clubs, hotels and bars and so
on.
How do you plan to target the 25 - 40 years
old consumer in India since Single Malt world over is positioned as
a connoisseur's drink for successful professionals, industrialist
and executives who are 40 plus?
We haven't just hit one group here. It's been different ages and
there have been some women as well. Normally, Whiskey is seen as
a man's drink. May be in the beginning the women came in because,
their men were going. Actually by allowing them to do a little bit
of nosing and putting a little bit of water, it becomes palatable.
The idea is that although we are a traditional Malt Whiskey, we
do not have to sell it the traditional way. It comes in a triangular
bottle, which shows that we are different in a few ways. Its for
people to enjoy, its not just for one group of people.
How important would you see the bartender's
role in educating the consumer better?
I think its crucial with knowledge and I think if they are asked
in a bar, what they could recommend….of course we are not
paying them to say, Glenfiddich is good. But now that they know
about Malt Whiskeys in general and Glenfiddich in particular, they
can be more confident in maybe trying whiskeys themselves. Once
they have tried, they will obviously see that Glenfiddich is special.
If not the best, it is one among the best. I am not saying the others
are bad whiskeys, I want to be objective. There are many other whiskies
but these are the reasons for choosing Glenfiddich. That's what
the barmen like; I mean you are being honest and objective. Of course
I work for Glenfiddich and I want to promote that and I happen to
think and I happen to know that we are special in the way that we
make it. We are very unique. So we do have some selling points.
How would you be tackling the huge and still
growing market for White Spirits in India such as Bacardi (Rum) and
Smirnoff (Vodka) who are also looking at this 25 - 40 age, young upwardly
mobile market?
We are not really competing with them. What we are selling is flavours
not mixability. We are not competing with them directly. We are
not really competing directly with anybody. Maybe with Johnny Walker
Black and Chivas 12 in parts, because some of their patrons will
may be move on to Malt Whiskies. But really we are creating a niche
in India, which I think could be quite big, but will not take away
things from others.