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The life and work of Dr. M S SWAMINATHAN
Q.
When did India achieve self-sufficiency in food ?
Efforts to achieve self-sufficiency in
food started in our country soon after Independence. In fact
Jawaharlal Nehru once made a remark that everything else
can be, but not agriculture. The districts worked on more irrigation
projects, established fertilizer factories and so on.
In-spite of all this, progress was not good,
and one of the reasons was that we had varieties of crops, which
were not high yielding. They were selected for low fertility conditions.
This deficiency we made good in 1960s by breeding high yielding
varieties of wheat, rice, jowhar, bajra, corn and maize. After this,
both production and productivity went up. For example, at the time
of India's independence in 1947, our farmers were harvesting 6 million
tonnes of wheat. This year it will be about 73 million tonnes of
wheat. Therefore, phenomenal progress has been made.
Q. How was food security achieved ?
Food security was
achieved by a combination of three important factors. One was technology,
which was economically viable and an inspiration to the farmers.
Then good water services and extensive supply of seeds, fertilizers
and electricity. Above all, public policies in terms of input-output
pricing and marketing. Just as fertilizers stimulate farm growth,
it is only assuring and remunerative marketing which stimulates
farmers' interest in new technologies. Therefore the Government
announced a floor price on major commodities and facilitated easy
purchase of these materials.
Q. Could you explain to us in greater detail,
this concept of food security ?
Food security is not just availability of
food in the market. It is more purchasing power. Economic access
where there is plenty of grain, fruit and vegetables in the market.
But if you do not have economic access to food, then you cannot
have the benefit of a balanced diet. But even today nearly 300 million
people go to bed partially hungry every night, inadequately nourished.
We
do not have access to clean drinking water and so even if you eat
something, the biological absorption of food in the body is not
good, because of unclean drinking water and poor environmental hygiene.
So I should say that we have entered the next phase of the food
security challenge, mainly economic access to food and also the
biological absorption of food in the body. This will require more
attention to rural jobs, attention to drinking water and sanitation.
Q. How has MSSRF has benefited farmers ?
MSSRF's philosophy is what we call Sustainable
Development. In other words, we like to see whether we can increase
production and productivity, but without associated ecological harm.
So we are working on what is called Precision Farming methods,
by which farmers give just that amount of fertiliser, that amount
of pesticide which is needed at the right time, the right place.
This helps you reduce cost of production, increase productivity
and above all avoid environmental hazards.
We
have also concretised our strategies for natural resources conservation
and poverty eradication through what we call a Bio-Village Paradigm
of rural development (another term for human-centred development).
The `Bio-Village' is based upon a pro-nature, pro-poor and pro-woman
orientation to a job-led economic strategy. Industrialised countries
are witnessing what is called jobless growth. Jobless growth is
what I call joyless growth. The `Bio-Village' shows the way to conserve
natural resources, how to utilise them well and how to have an economically
viable enterprise. These are not based on subsidy, but based on
small-scale community banking. The `Bio-Village' programme is based
upon micro village planning, micro enterprises and micro credit.
We have also launched as part of our sustainable
development strategy, a community food and water security system.
This comprises conservation of local bio-diversity and development
of seed banks. Several times, the major constraint is the
non-availability of good seeds. Just depending upon a few Corporations
will not help in a country of one billion. Therefore, we must have
a decentralised approach. That is why we are developing a village
seed bank, by which hybrid rice and hybrid tomato seeds can be produced
by one self-help group (group of 10 to 15 women). It is completely
viable. Not based on any subsidy, except training.
The third component is the village water bank. This is nothing
but community water harvesting, using small ponds and using
them for high value, but low water-requiring crops. Our water banks,
unlike the commercial water markets, is based on harvesting rain
water, keeping it, saving it, sharing it and using it. So I am quite
excited.
Q. What is MSSRF concentrating on right now
?
We are now concentrating on what we call
`Agenda 2007' to commemorate the 60th anniversary of our
independence. We are trying to add in our agenda two more items-
one is food security at the level of individuals and population
stabilisation.
Q. What are the major challenges to be addressed
in the agricultural sector ?
The Agriculture sector has problems. Lack
of infrastructure, poor road conditions and inadequate storage.
In rural India there is more money taken out from villages, than
going into it through bank deposits. First of all, rural India is
crying for attention for infrastructure. Today, most of our people
dry paddy on the roads. And cars, jeeps and buses go over them.
How do we compete?
The
second major challenge is the problem of increasing very small holdings.
Already holdings are small, but with the death of the father, it
is further divided, becoming more and more fragmented. There is
no proper land consolidation and no organised group effort. Only
now some group effort has come in water management, but these people
are not able to take much of a risk. Ultimately, in the agricultural
sector the yield is based upon the cost, return and risk structure.
Cost is becoming high, risks are becoming high and the return is
getting lower.
And finally there is the onslaught of imported
foods. So many kinds of foods have come into the market. And they
can out price our people. Moreover, our import has gone to Rs. 10,000
crores. So what happens when you neglect your own farmers? The investment
in agricultural sector has slackened. For instance comparing an
average Tamil Nadu farm and an Iowa farm in the US, the investment
will be of the proportion of 1:100,000. How do we compare?
So we are going through a difficult phase in our agriculture because
our policies are more urban and consumer-riented rather than being
production and farmer-oriented. Free electricity and subsidies are
further ruining prospects.
Q. Is agriculture in step with technological
development ?
What we did in 1964 was a kind of national
demonstration on corner streets, to voice our views. But today,
through Information Technology, developments are easily communicated.
I suggest we must have more radios, covering 10 kilometres, because
lot of the technologies are location-specific.
The new technology, what we call in our
foundation, eco-technologies, (economically sustainable technologies)
are knowledge-intense and not capital-intense. That will require
using communication technology more intelligently and as I said
linking each knowledge-centre to small, local radio stations. In
fact what we do in Veerapatinam, a coastal village in Pondicherry,
is that every morning the woman who opens the centre, gets information
on sea conditions not of the Indian Ocean or Bay of Bengal, but
of Veerapatinam sea. 100 metres from there, what will the tide be?
1000 metres from there, what will the tide be? Very accurate data,
available every morning, broadcast by the women through loudspeakers,
before their husbands go on their catamarans out to sea.
We are information-rich, but action-poor
in our country. Instead, we should use this knowledge for the purpose
of empowerment of the people.
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